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Where is the pic from?

American control of Iraqi oil production? Ha! Those advisors thought with the government and legal enforcement removed, business would be booming, and of course the opposite was the case. Besides which, apart from Iraq now being a parliamentary democracy, nothing really changed. (If we overlook all those dead people and damaged infrastructure. So what has changed has changed for the worse. And you got Freedom Fries now instead of French Fries. Nice job promoting the benefits freedom and democracy.)

The war in Afghanistan obviously benefits the weapons industry, and some mercenary outfit(s). Seeing how opium production skyrocketed in those areas the Taliban where driven out from, I'd say it benefits another industry as well, but that industry at least kind of pays for itself. (Not like the military which is paid with tax money.) Do not underestimate the influence of the military-industrial complex on US foreign policy. (It is hard to underestimate the effectiveness of US foreign policy though.)

It appears I got a bit sidetracked here.
Seriously, where is the pic from?

Seriously, I want to know.

>The main strategic reason for the invasion would seem to have been toppling of the government

What a fucking loser you are. You have no concept of what is going on in Dick Cheney's little war do you. This war is corporate welfare. It has nothing to do with removing Sadam Whats-his-name. We put him in power. He was on the CIA pay-roll. We knew he didn't have WMD because we supplied his arms. When will people like you wake up and take an objective look at the war. Want to know what's going on? Follow the money. We just pulled out troops and increased the number of contractors by a similar amount.

>Please comment.
You asked for it.
>All of us are here and going nowhere,
All of us are probably going to die.
>All of the four corners have been found and properly labeled and sold.
Except Antarctica and similarly inaccessible regions.
>the earth is a prison from which there is no escape.
I am posting from the moon :p
>We have been divided up into separate countries ( wings in the prison. )
Note that we did not divide ourselves, but were divided.
>Separated into religions of our choosing ( gangs ) within the housing units.
Quite accurate. Except different sects within religions are often simply different opinions about policy.
>Sorted by number, To hold accountability to individual members of said gang.
Religions don't take responsibility for the acts of its individual members. They may take the credit, though.
>We need to make the leaders LEAD including in war.

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This is intellectual discussion. It's not advice for the love lorn. Sure reality isn't pretty. Since when is that news? Leaders won't lead because they want to be reelected. In their second term they are too worried about their fucking legacy to do anything. It's not about leading. It's about looking good.

Making leaders lead in the terms you seem to connote is much like the tyranny of the masses. Remember that our leaders serve those who didn't vote for them as much as those that did.

As an atheist, I couldn't give less of a damn about what god says. Anyways, if two people geniunely love each other, they should be allowed to marry. Marriage is supposed to be about love, but now its been desecrated by ignorant thinking and now people are actually making a fuss about something as stupid as gender. If atheist can get married, why can't gays?

>>1665
>If atheist can get married, why can't gays?
Great, now you've done it. Stop giving them ideas!
(Besides, marriage is not about love, it is about possible or actual children, or alternatively about the succession of possession if arranged.)

Marriage is misery, why ahould gays
be exempt? Welcome to my nightmare.

Sadly, you have to accept that what defines sanity is the mass perception of the word. It was once sane to stone a woman for doing unbelievable things since they were labeled a witch. Today, stoning a woman for an amazing feit is considered insane. So despite whats actually right and wrong, we can only do what we are allowed to as defined by the masses.

When poor people do it, it's called crazy.
When rich people do it, it"s called eccentric.
When a government does it, it's called for their good.
When a religion does it, it's called holy word of god.
When an animal does it, it's called natural.
When the police do it, it's called the law.
When parents do it, it's called do as i say not as i do.
But everyone seems to be doing it.

>>1139
>He was speaking in moral terms, silly.
I don't see a difference.
>>1668
>Sadly, you have to accept that what defines sanity is the mass perception of the word.
Wrong.
>It was once sane to stone a woman for doing unbelievable things since they were labeled a witch.
It was never sane.
>Today, stoning a woman for an amazing feit is considered insane.
No, sometimes it is considered the law.
>So despite whats actually right and wrong, we can only do what we are allowed to as defined by the masses.
Or accept the punishment.
>>1669
>When the police do it, it's called the law.
I like it up until this line. Police does not define the law. Government defines the law.

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hmmm... just "Don't Tell" & be a good uniformed gay for more than 3 years, which might automatically involve sucking up to anyone of several superior officers looking for "special favors" from tiem to time (you can be sure that just like at the Vatican, no one "asks")

Oopsie! Derailed Train of Thought paradox: "Did the Pope know about Paedophiliac Priests?" Are you kidding? He's the President of the local NAMBLA, for gods sake!

Selfishness, altruism and human nature:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3494530275568693212
Do yourself a favour and watch it. It wraps up most walls of text in this thread.

>>362
No. That is not what logic is.
Logic is a toolbox for consistent reasoning. It may prove systems wrong. It by itself can't prove systems right.

>>659
The universe by definition is everything that is.
If god is the universe, we will just call it the universe and not anthropomorphize it.
The hypothetical "box" you speak of is called the cosmos. It may or may not be the entire universe.

>>684
War is not self defense. Being against war is self-defense.

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I think you're right. We think the beliefs and ways of our culture are right only because it was what we were always told by the people of that culture. It isn't until we realize that we are biased to other people's beliefs and ways of life because of the lack of understanding of their own cultures that we can truly call our knowledge of the world intellect.

>>1577
Yes we can!
Unless you define law as "that which I want others to follow."
Or are you implying a community could never agree to what is and what isn't right? Common standards of conduct formed by consensus?

Anarchy and Chaos are two very different things. We live in chaos righ tnow. Every second in the world, someone is dying, being stolen from, being raped, etc. All these crimes are products of the system. You would think as the superior beings of this planet that we could achieve something as simple as peace, but through our fear of each other spawned authority. If we all just banded together there wouldn't need to have laws or regulations. We are all afraid of change even though it has proven to be beneficial time and time again.

>>1666
I like the cut of your jib.
(Appropriate GET, too.)

Everthing is chaos. The illusion of order is a random inevitabilty.

We have not spawned authority. Some have become authorities through merit, in their respective fields. Self-appointed authorities seek to control us abolutely through fear.

>If we all just banded together there wouldn't need to have laws or regulations.
There would have to be standards still. And protocols of consequences if they are violated. The difference is in how they are formed.
>We are all afraid of change even though it has proven to be beneficial time and time again.
Change is inevitable, as everything is chaos, and order occurs merely by chance. Change is the only constant: In time everything changes, and in it us.
I am not afraid of change. I welcome it, for to not change is to be dead.

They are ALL guilty of selling out and fucking us over!!
How hard is that to understand. America has NOT been what we have been taught to believe for quite some time. We are now about to pay the ultimate price for allowing it to happen. Maybe the next generation or two from now will get it right. As for us and now, Time for a bawww session.

Four Probable 2012 GOP Presidential Candidates Currently Work For Fox News

Amazingly Fox News still claims to be an actual news organization that is “fair & balanced” even though there are currently four probable 2012 Republican candidates for President working for the network: Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, & Rick Santorum.

To understand the absurdity of this situation, imagine if Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, & John Edwards had all worked for CNN prior to the 2008 election. Just imagine that. How preposterous is it that anyone is still pretending that Fox “News” is anything other than a part of the Republican Party?
I don't deny them their fair share but the other news stations do not scream from the rooftops fair&balanced 24/7

>File 125858520617.jpg
those unix timestamps

Old thread is old.

I fart in my hand and smell it

Fail...

win

I don't think there is a FULL haha democracy any where!
just different ways that different countries use to beat their people down.
It's sad really!!!

>>1628
Switzerland.
Iceland.

>>1629
o yea except them of course.

NOT!

>>1653
>yes I am aware that not all nazi were bad.
I disagree, but caution that the Wehrmacht were not the Nazis.
>I was presenting evidance of how they felt about the subject
How is that even remotely relevant, Mister Godwin?

>>1655
I will explain. Most of what happened in Nazi Germany was not exactly positive. They were on a "witch hunt" This guy is on a witch hunt. Once he gets the gays and drinkers then it will be time to move on to the next morally unacceptable ( in his eyes ) group, then next, then next. He has a personal agenda, He is pissed with his mommy and daddy. That is how BAD shit in a country gets started, and ends with lots of people dieing.

>>1655
Also, MR. Godwin.
Nice one! old chap.

>>1630
You have two lines passing through the upper left line segment. : (

unsolvable

I broke it down into a graph then simplified it
the areas (lettered) are turned into vertices in the graph, and the edges between surfaces into edges in the graph. area A is the area all around the rectangle
For example, area B has its left and top edge touching area A, so there's two lines connecting vertices A and B in the graph.
Then I simplified the graph by removing 2-cycles (whenever there's two lines connecting vertices X and Y, it's like a loop, so you can safely remove it - think about it).
And you can see you can't go traverse every edge in the final graph (Euler path I think?) without traversing an edge twice.

discrete math and graph theory FTW

>>1554

Perimeter is made of line segments too. FAIL.

Op here - forgot to mention, if this insane admin actually forwards a complaint to the Van people over a picture with 5 jars of mayo in it, admin deserves to be vanned...by the psych center, IMO.

Apparently it didn't list the subject but the intent was to make a haiku thread.

>>1602
>if i schitzo meditates enough i think he can become enlightened in a manner that will surpasses all human understanding
But would still feel miserable beyond words.

The concept of illness is wrong anyway.

So what if people has some condition, or some parasites that impairs their lives?

Just live with it. Or die with it.

>>1633
What do you mean?
Life is lethal anyway. The only way to avoid death is to not be born.

And since we have to suffer through it anyway (barring suicide of course), anything that makes it more unpleasant should be avoided, and anything that makes it less unpleasant should be attempted and welcomed. Therefore, anything that "impairs your life", as you put it, is a bad thing that should be remedied if possible. This includes illnesses, mental or otherwise. This is why we have antibiotics and prosthetics.

Put in a more optimistic light, anything that lessens your joy and your lust for life is an obstacle to life itself. "So what," you say? Contract a debilitating illness and enjoy it, please, for the sake of the rest of us. We need something to laugh at.

alex jones is an american hero

well he differs from the apathic majority of the us and for that he should be commended no?

Alex Jones is just another opinion from "The Normal Mainstream Media".

You don't even have to agree with him if you don't want to.

All of his stuff he publishes is free and you recopy it over and over.

Even if you don't like the guy, you have to admit that is kinda cool, and even respectable.

First off, we do not live in a democratic country, we live in a republic, thanks public education.

Second off, I agree we should vote out all incumbents, but, and this is a major but, the new will be just as bad as the old. With the exception that they won't have such a long "favors owed" list.

I also agree with the poster who said the 2 parties are a ruse covering the fact that there is really only one agenda.

My question would be a different one from OP, since I believe a third party would only offer more of the same, with different packaging. I would like to know how we the people take control of the agenda, while not allowing for "mob rule".

>>1595
>I would like to know how we the people take control of the agenda, while not allowing for "mob rule".
Democracy. Human rights must trump public vote.
More government with limited responsibilites, more decentralized, less influence, easier to get into for anyone, for specific concerns. (NOT more centralized government.)

You are absolutely. Libertarian. If you are libertarian then you should register as one and vote for libertarians. I know it sucks but its the only way we can get libertarians in office. New hampshire has the most libertarians maybe we should move there and start a libertarian state.

I wish to have freedom
I wish not to be controlled
I wish to speak free
I wish to think free
I wish to learn but not be taught
I wish to decipher but not be told
I wish to earn and not be charged
I wish to have opportunity without hindrance
I wish to not be influenced
I wish be in control of myself
I wish to question all I know
I wish to promote freedom

>>1470
Time can kind of be measured. We don't actually know what it is we're measuring when we measure time.

>>1435
Saying that quantum mechanics actually tells us anything about the nature of the world other than some really weird (but consistent) mathematical results is bull. Even the Copenhagen interpretation, historically the most popular interpretation of what the hell QM tells us, has been falling apart with the study of quantum cosmology (without any "classical measuring apparatus," how the hell did the wave function of the universe collapse to actually give rise to our universe?)

>>1609
It makes them interchangable in a trivial way that can be done with just about anything. I mean light year is basically just velocity * time = distance. Light's velocity (in a vaccum) * 1 year = light year. In the same way I could say a water cube, the mass of water in a cubic meter, and define it as the density of water * 1 cubic meter = 1 water cube. I don't think this shows that volume and mass are simply interchangeable in any meaningful way...If you want, you can do this with values not normally related as well, like, iunno, charge and mass, distance and mass, or, ooo force and power level.

>>1610
I think equivalence of time and distance is pretty significant. It helps you to visualize time as something more physical instead of the abstract concept that we have now; something that is more integrated in our view of the single entity that is, space-time. So that you could consider time line of anything as a line having a specific length.

Also, you could combine, more easily, these four "lengths" to get a single space-time distance between say, event A at location X and event B at location Y. Maybe...

z = [a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - t^2]^(0.5)

or use i (iota), i.e. (it)^2 to avoid that -ve sign at the end and to indicate the inherently different source of that last term.

>>1618
That is what Minkovski space is for.